Well give you the last word on this one. But he would be smart to play along. Now, if he gets all tatted and pierced up like Dennis Rodman, his options will be fewer. More people think the owners have the right to tell a guy if he can get tattoos and piercings or not? however, picking and choosing who can and cant have these piercings/tatoos is discrimination and can open up a door to issues, potential discrimination law suits. Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. They just want the most talented guys. Each do it different, but that is the end goal. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. OMG Cam Newton Just Checked his map and realized hes in that country called AMERICA. If Jerry Richardson is a racist, how come he drafted Newton to be the face of the franchise? Though the topic was addressed by Tom Sorensen of the Charlotte Observer in April, its worth repeating. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. uncwseahawks25 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:57 AM. Sure he could release him but he would still have to pay the guaranteed money in the contract and I am sure another team would be glad to pick him up. Its simpleIf you want to play in the NFL you have to follow rules. - EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. Now, having found out he doesnt have tattoos or piercings, hes gone up a few notches in my eyes. At any job the boss has the right to tell his employee what he can and cant do. Its a simple process and then you feel happy because you know you are helping another person. Is a tattoo unprofessional? this, however, is taking it a step further by dictating how cam can look when hes not at work. You pay me that kind of money, you own me Im yours, sir. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. Players have to cover tattoos and be well groomed. It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. This is not so much about race as it is about, the bottom line which is money. I didnt realize having tattoos and piercings was unreasonable. Obviously, it didnt phase Cam who is there to play football. Brandon Roy 4. I for one do not mind a boss/owner being allowed to dictate to his employees what they can or can not wear, decorate, etc Cam was drafted and signed a contract with the team to play in Carolina. WebIts inevitable to come across some flashy tattoos in a locker room full of NFL athletes. All you widget business owners out there can dictate how your employees dress. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. catman72 says: August 24, 2011 at 7:59 am Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. Its outrageous and racist and pretty damn normal. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. Its a legitimate choice. I am the biggest Panthers fan and Cam Newtons most staunch supporter(and he needs it in Charlotte), since his first game against Clemson last year. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. Its called be an adult and realizing that you dont just get to do whatever you want and not possibly suffer consequences. Tattoos and piercings say exactly that. employees do have rights. Other dumb black QBs? Back Football Tattoos 7. Aug 24, 2011 6:29 AM owners of sports teams seek out particular players because of their talent and therefore those players have the power to say whether or not they will adhere to any dress code that is set out. The NFL has always been known as a league where players can display their personalities in a number of different ways. This Baltimore Ravens fan is chronicling his team's 2021 season in a permanent way -- tattoos for every win. No offense, but my workplace has a dress code that states no visible tattoos and no piercings on men. The poll results are sad. Of course teams have the right to at least request this. I have no visible tats and no piercingsbecause its BAD FOR BUSINESS!!! He is the best deep threat in NFL and has been waiting to be paid accordingly. Web1. Get a grip people. The NFL is trending dangerously close to the path the NBA took years ago and is now the NBA is trying to rebuild its image and fan base. Nothing worse than going to the doctors office and my freaking nurse has a nose piercing. And to those who say there is no place that would fire an employee over tattoos and such I can name several Two are family entertainment venues namely Walt Disney who has strict policies against and Universal Entertainment. Julius, you may be the best DE in the league but I dont want my best player to have tattoos, so GTFO. Comparing this to typical workplaces LOL!!! I bet 90% of people work somewhere that has some type of dress code, either cover tatoos, keep your hair neat. One guy I graduated from college learned this lesson the hard way. That is the way the world works. Dwight Howard 6. Some employers even take it a step furtherMy partner is a firefighter, and she had to sign a morals clause as part of her employment contract with the city. The difference is you can also go to another restaurant that allows tats and piercings. Blanco hit eight homers for the Diamondbacks in just 37 games played last season. Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. Fines? Paul Pogba. In the NFL a player does not have that choice and therefore should not be forced into an image he does not want. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. I find Cams clean cut look refreshing in the world of sports these days; much like Dwight Howard. You must appeal to your demographic. The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. The league doesnt have to work too hard pitching its product to the fans; they sell themselves on it. It seems to be accepted in industries that dont deal much with the public, except for the carnival. LMAO @ mrmilstead, havent seen a comment that good in a while. Unfortunately for Jackson, his tattoo choice George Steinbrenner had the same rule for Yankees players. As for Richardson not wanting Cam to get tats or piercings, its his team and he can request or demand how his players look on the field or in front of the press. I believe they both come from religious families. Oh this is NOT gonna get 8 pages of comments about how bad this man is out of his mind Nope lol wow. Problem is, he forgot who it is that was going to be paying his salary. Correct, no different, but still stupid. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. It happens in many different workplaces. Apparently, Richardson is willing to tolerate those things when it comes to men who wont become the face of the franchise. Why risk losing a commercial deal or something over a tatt. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. Ex Barcelona Pep Guardiola boss reflected on why Andreas Iniesta does not wear any tattoo, Iniesta doesnt die his hair, he does not wear earrings and he hasnt got any tattoos. There are trade offs. Where is the option for Yes, but players dont have to follow it. This was a PRE-DRAFT interview. Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. The yankees have the same thing in place. Whether he will get it or not is Cams choice. Jerry, do you care more about winning football games or playing house? Leg Football Tattoos 9. Calf Football Tattoos 10. I think we are seeing more and more owners stay out of the football side of things. The Jaguars have had a resurgent season and one of the best defenses in the NFL. I made that point in another post. When has it ever been cool to make up rules as we go? From hair length, to facial hair, and most certainly tattoos (can you imagine a big professional law or accounting firm having a employee with tattoos and piercings all over their bodies?). I just want to play football.. 1 draft pick, Jerry Richardson to Cam Newton: No tattoos, no piercings, Report: Derek Carr wants $35 million per year, The Raiders are the betting favorites to land Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy: Kellen Moore wants to light the scoreboard up, I want to run the damn ball, ESPN reiterates report that Lamar Jackson wants a fully-guaranteed deal, Arrest warrant issued for Jalen Carter for reckless driving, racing, Aaron Rodgers says hell make a decision soon enough, Competition Committee begins to explore the quarterback push play, Players say Chiefs discourage them from reporting injuries, have NFLs worst training staff, Bryce Young is just over 5-10 and 204 pounds. Personal individuality and freedoms are being taken more and more by corporations that see their workforce as disposable and easily replaceable, hence, they believe they can tell you what to think, who to be, what you do with your body, they monitor what you say on facebook, twitter, and other social media in order to try to stifle personal opinions and thoughts. Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. They also have the right to have it backfire on them if it turns out nobody really cares if a football player has tattoos, and all this conversation does is plant the seed among other players that maybe this isnt a guy you want to play for. In fact, instead of having fancy tattoos, he decides to help humanity. You can agree or disagree with Richardson. ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. This is a discussion on CujoMatty Madden 20 Generic Tattoo Project within the Madden NFL Football PC forums. If they are, then hell, I wish I was too. Richardson might as well have told Cam: If you ever feel slighted by me and want to piss me off, get yourself a tattoo.. realitypolice says: Its America and both can do what they want in this country. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound Johnson was the preseason SEC player of the year in. Its his team so he can do so. Tattoo or not. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Athletes are NOT slaves, as much as some like to say. With regards to the NFL, people would watch it still if the players wore snuggies instead of uniforms. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. That is fine. Denver Broncos. If he is quoted correctly there was no ultimatim, so there should be no issue. Iniesta played for Barcelona for 22 years. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. This is so ridiculous. Its the voice of reason in an age where the game is getting out of control of the owners. But it is rediculous to think that people would watch the NFL less if all the players had tattoos and piercings. Terrelle Pryor. Hell, even the military is getting picking about where they want their Marines, soldiers, airmen or sailors to get tats. . From full-sleeve tribal tattoos, nameplates and even tropical sunsets. now with that said, i do agree that a no piercings/tatoos policy can hold up. An NFL owner can tell his employers whatever he wants. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. LOL -. NFL players can have as many tattoos as they want, and they do not have to cover them under any rules. Translation: Dont want to scare white people. No. In the real world one is not restricted to one team or look for a new line of unemployment. Who Will Win The Premier League Golden Boot For The 2021/22 Season? While I disagree with Richardson on many many things. Those who choose not to abide by the new regulations will be subject to fines and other disciplinary action including the possibility of suspension. Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. It is not unreasonable that owners want them to be non controvertial and risk alienating their fan base. I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. And such is life! A winning QB gets the endorsements, so as long as he win games then his endorsements will be there. However, what Cam does with his body outside the realm of being in shape, keeping himself healthy and making sure he is prepared to lead the team effectively, is none of the owners business. Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. Its that simple. Umm I think hes paid to play be the face of the franchise and be a mentor to people..with that being said u can have tattoos and still be that..tattoos dont determine the kind of person you arelet JR frown about it I bet if he does get them and have good yrs doing his rookie contract he will get an new contract regardless..sometimes employees dont see eye to eye with there bosses anyway. He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. end of story. A man child would go get tatoos despite what the guy said. Pittsburgh, New England and New York are thought to have the best onwership and those rules dont exist. Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. We can pretend were past this as a society, but unfortunately were not. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. I have no problem with asking players. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. Big diff to being the face of the franchise and being a backup linebacker.. Richardson has a reasonable point in this manner.. Newton will be the first face in all of the ads for the team and organization.. The main reason Mo Salah does not have tattoos is that he is a Muslim and tattoos are forbidden in Islam. This is funny. First I think we need to remember that the NFL is a JOB! I disagree with the assertion. I get it. In saying that Cam is up for it and he will be great, it is just going to take some time. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. The reason he does not wear any tattoos is that his father has not allowed him to wear. And I dont want you hanging around that no-good tyrone or that shank shaquanda!. These should be implied when you are put in place to be the Face!. i think a TON of people are missing the point. While it may seem odd to tell a grown man that he cant wear a tattoo or ear piercing, you could alway tell him hes more than welcome to wear them both for another team. Tattoos and piercings are a little different, if theyre covered (or removed), when in uniform, I dont think they shouldnt be an issue. He doesnt care about Shockeys appearance b/c Shockey isnt on sportscenter on a daily basis wearing a panthers jersey. We already have our Cam Newton. Or says something stupid. It isnt illegal for the boss to discriminate against people with tattoos or piercings. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? There is a difference in telling players and asking players. If Cam really wants a tat that badresign from the team. And no, the circumstance cant be a policy that applies to #1 draft picks or star quarterbacks. I absolutely HATE looking at those players with tattoos up and down their arms, gold teeth, big diamonds in both of their ear lobes and hair down to their a$$. They have the ability to quit and do something else just like we all do if they dont like the business they work for. Boy, a lot of people who werent there know for sure what was said and to whom it was said. Embiid is currently enjoying one of the best seasons in his career, averaging 29.6 points, 10.8 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks per game. D@amn right he can dictate as he chooses. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. I always laugh at people who think that their boss cant dictate how they dress, look, etc. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. Its fact of life. I could go on with many more examples, but hopefully even your ignorant and mean- spirited brain can understand. Would I care if he was the face of Packers? Claiming that our jobs mean nothing & that monkeys could do it. You know NOTHING about any of us.some are firefighters who run into a burning building to save lives & property. Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. I didnt realize having tattoos and piercings was unreasonable. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. Ill be posting some of the most interesting aspects of their discussion right here. With Cam Newton, I understand Jerrys position; he wants a clean cut guy to represent the franchise. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. WebMiami Sports. This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. I have a problem with the fact that this was even a part of his thought process. If a potential employee doesnt agree with itthat is fine. People always look way too deep into things. I have both tattoos and piercings, and if you are willing to judge me by those before even talking to me, I dont want to work or know you. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? 16. drmonkeyarmy says: Im perfectly OK with JR telling him how he should represent JRs franchise. No. . nflofficeadmin says: Aug 24, 2011 6:03 AM. They want the money too. If you show up for an interview looking like a hood you might not get hired. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. Its like any other job. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. ************************************************** Tattoosshmeh not so much. my 80+ yr old great uncle has a tat that says mom on his arm, does that make him a bad person? Here's a look at the 25 worst tattoos, on current players, in the NFL, NBA and MLB. Solid Oak Sketches filed suit on Monday in New York federal court, saying that particular tattoos depicted on players in the recent game NBA2K16 was the company's copyrighted work. The Senegalese star devoted himself completely to football and does not care about fancy stuff. Cristiano Ronaldo is one of few footballers who do not wear tattoos. Jerry Richardson is an A$$. He is one of the few footballers without tattoos as it prohibited in his religion Islam. Unless the contract says so, Richardson doesnt have any business telling anyone how they can look. Show me one NFL player without any tattoos and I will show you 15 that do. Cast a vote below. The fact is, in todays game, corporate money is where its at. Employers (particularly those paying you millions) making these type of desires known is totally reasonable. We wont allow an employee to enter a home with vivible tattoos or piercings. mnfaninaz says: Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! LeBron is covered in ink and he seems like an all around decent person (The Decision aside). I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. Anyone whos worked in the real world knows this isnt uncommon. Just as long as it isnt in the form of a threat or ultimatum. He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. It sounds to me like Jerry was asking him to keep it the way he has. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. First thing he should have asked his new QB is whether he though he could win a Super Bowl. We want is not the same as I order or you must. If the Panthers owner feels that a certain outcome will lead to better marketing and sales while also happening to agree with his values then why shouldnt he say he wants that outcome? There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . You must be logged in to leave a comment. At least Cam knows how he can get out of Carolina if he wants. 10 best NBA players who dont have tattoos. My boss wont let me have visible tats or piercings (I work for a bank, where I am a member of senior management). If I want piercings or tats, I can go do something else. The thing is, as the article mentions, it has to be consistant with the business or in this case the franchise. The Liverpool star has decided not to wear any tattoos. Register now! JR has the right to say he doesnt want a QB with tattoos and piercings. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? Joel Embiid. If Cam newton goes out and does get them, and his contract gets termed, welcome to the real world. successful business owners in general (not the rule) tend to be type A personalities that think because they are the boss they can control everything. That may hold true for fans. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. There are huge differences, to be sure, but the same laws apply. Cam Newton doesn't have any tattoos on his body, and his ears are unpierced. Wrong. Full disclosure Im a 25 yo white male with a lot of tattoos. 3. Michael Finley 3. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. He didnt draft the guy and then say theses things. Lionel Messi or Kylian Mbappe? Its a whole lot easier to sell big business on a nice-looking, clean cut young man like Cam Newton, as opposed to a player like Chris Johnson with all the hair, tattoos, and gold teeth. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. Chris Paul. Besides, every other corporation has a dress code of some kind, it isnt like he would not have faced this perhaps in the work place elsewhere. A company that owns the right to tattoos on NBA players is suing the makers of "NBA2K" for graphically representing those tattoos on NBA players without his permission. Some are police officers who are willing to take a bullet to protect your stupid a##. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. He strongly recommended it stay the way it is. Speaking about his likes and dislikes, the Egyptian king said: I dont have tattoos, I dont change hairstyles, I dont know how to dance. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Thigh Football Tattoos 11. lets review the poll question: Should teams be able to tell players not to get tattoos or piercings? He is one of the few footballers without tattoos. Can somebody find out if Jerry ever asked these questions to a white player? It was simply a job interview. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Al Davis??? That being said I have for along time felt that there is a reason you dont see very many successful QBs with tattoos. Cam can choose to bag groceries instead of get paid 30 mil to play a game. Richardson: Oh yea, by the way no white girls either Cam. Shin Football Tattoos 13. Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. Jerry is old school Plain and simple. No surprises. But Richardson isnt Newtons father. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. Why all the indignation because the owner wants the face of his franchise to be Wheaties cereal cover material? I wouldnt. On the other hand, if it doesnt interfere with your job function, its not in the bosss interest to lose talented employees because of the personal choices they make. The only issue is: a) Whether the team is willing to enforce the code to everyone fairly. As we can see, Fitzgerald has no tattoos, which is kind of rare in the NFL. im not a supporter of owner meddling in his employees personal time. Chris Paul 2. Tattoos have received a negative connotation in recent years, going as far as the NFL might hire police experts to study players tattoos, according to an article published by CBS . This is absurd! Though Newton cant be disciplined for getting a tattoo or a piercing or multiple of either, Richardson has made his wishes clear and hed likely be unhappy if Newton defies them. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. If your company says no tattos or No piercing it is a written policy. BUT I think im reading into Richardsons intentions the face of the franchise will make both of them money if he is clean of those markings. Keyonta Muhammad Ansari, 7-May, /post/keyonta-muhammad-ansari/, -118. But dont act like Newton had the option to say, Well, I dont care for Mr. Richardsons rules, so Im going to play for whatever NFL team I choose.. just because you own a company/team, doesnt mean you can tell your employees to do whatever you want. I dont have tattoos or any piercings, and I would like to keep it that way. Read your employee manual lately? There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. Cam does not have an issue with it. A direction to a single employee isnt a policy. If Cam chooses to do something contrary to the owners wishes then Richardson will no doubt calculate it when decided to resign him or not. Thread starter dolfan313; S Cam: WTF!!!!! I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! A perfect example is Robert Kraft and his relationships with his team. French international NGolo Kante remains a humble human being despite his recent successes. Its his team. Aug 24, 2011 8:24 AM He had NO option to play for someone else nor did he have the option of declining the job offer to work for another employer than has a more employee friendly dress code. But Earrings denote immaturity. What makes you part of the team is not the draft but the contract that is signed, which most NFL contract do have a morality/ dress code clause look at Plexico Buress and others who violate their teams contracts by doing stupid things. The first one relates to the pre-draft meeting between Richardson and quarterback Cam Newton. To play for the organization, you complied with the rule. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. Richardson is entitled to tell Newton to do anything he wants. To: BIGTROUBLEhow dare you judge people here in such a manner? Then Richardson would have to risk cutting talent (Im not a Cam fan), taking a PR hit and letting Cam take his talents to another team. However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. Love the fact that Cam doesnt have any, but it is certainly not up to Mr. Richardson to dictate this. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. As usual the folks here are writing an article about nothing to create page hits and controversy. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. So I guess all of the bloggers were drafted to work at their current companies right? Come to think of it, Ive seen far more whites with tattoos and piercings falling off their bodies than I have blacks.